for blame. >> can't you see bill clinton getting on the phone to barack obama and saying, you remember what i did back in 19 whenever. i made the republicans' response will be closing down the government. they never got over it. destroy them. lou: i think that actually i would not be surprised if bill clinton is not orchestrated the whole thing right now, if you will, behind the curtain. >> i would not be surprised if president obama was on the phone with a regular basis with former president clinton talking about what occurred in 95. they did force the government shut down and it was the end of republicans for a while. it was pretty extraordinary. >> barack obama campaigned on this issue. think he will dig his heels in, and he very successfully painted republicans as obstructionists. that is what it will be blamed i agree with you. i think he will dig his heels in. not so sure that the republican leaders will dig their heels and on the tax hikes. i'm not sure where this will go. a see a potential for republicans giving, not barack obama. >> i would like to say that i see a potential for bo
